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Penny [00:00:00.06] Well, hello, everyone, I’m so glad you joined me again today. My name is Penny, and I’m just again, so thankful that you’re all out there listening. Welcome to this next session of Get Seller’s Calling You. I am joined again with my great friend, Beatty. Carmichael Beatty is the CEO of MasterGrabber and the creator of Agent Dominator, one of the top marketing experts in the real estate field. Beatty, I am thrilled to be joining you again today on this call. And I just know you have something amazing for our listeners.
Beatty: [00:00:33.42] Well, I am thrilled, too, because I love hearing that introduction. Love hearing how great I am. So as Moses said on the most humble men on Earth right now, I love it. So we are doing another call. And this one is going to be what we call a radical faith call. And for those of you who are new, joining in on our Get Sellas Calling You podcast, we do two types of calls. One for real estate marketing, one to live as a Christian. So this is the one we’re doing to live as a Christian. If you have interest in that, I would definitely invite you to stay. This is an exciting call. But if you don’t have interest, then skip this episode and come back for the real estate marketing one next. So, Penny, we are in a series on faith like Jesus and really just kind of dissecting, peeling back that onion layer by layer of what is this thing called, faith number one. Number two, did Jesus actually have faith or was he simply God and therefore he doesn’t need faith? Or could it be some kind of combination between all of that? Last topic, we talked on a couple of things. We talked about what is faith? Just kind of a high level overview. And we also talked about what is authority and what we discussed. If you recall, is that faith is the knowing of God’s truth. It’s the perspective of God. And therefore, it’s being able to see those things that are not saying. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:02:10.86] Yes, it does. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:02:12.54] And then we gave this wonderful example. You and I were out hiking and after a long day, we were both exhausted in the middle of nowhere. No place to sit except I see something that you did not. I saw a chair or shade tree, a cool pool of water, ice, cold lemonade. So I sit down and kick back and relax. And you’re sitting there baking in the hot sun because you don’t see it. And if you don’t see it, you can’t take possession of it. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:02:39.39] Yes, it does. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:02:41.01] So that’s kind of what faith is all about. And that’s what we’re talking about here. And this is what we’re going to talk about in today’s session. We’re going to put a little bit more meat on this about being able to, quote unquote, take possession of something that is out of the norm, that doesn’t fit reality that you don’t see. But that’s what faith is. The other thing we talked on last time is that faith is intricately tied and woven together into a thing called authority. And this is where we started to discuss that you have power and authority. Power is the ability to do something, and authority is what controls the power. Okay. Yeah, we talked a couple of times back when we’re talking about, you know, the same same miracles that Jesus did. Those same types of miracles were also done by men in the Old Testament, and they were done by men in the New Testament. So we came to the conclusion that probably couldn’t have been simply Jesus doing the miracles as God because men weren’t God. So there had to be something different. We came up to last time we started to talk about the separation of Jesus walking in his position as a man and walking in his position as God, because he’s both positions together. But they operate separately. And we got probably it’s kind of a confusing concept. But here’s what we came to the conclusion of that. Faith. Is tied into the authority that’s been given you. I would say as it relates to Jesus. Jesus was modeling. This is what we’re going to talk about today. Did Jesus actually model faith? And I believe he did. We’re going to discuss it. But in order to model it, that means he had to act in faith in the position of a man. But the object of his faith was his own authority and his position as God and man in the Old Testament and in the New Testament after Jesus. They all walked in their. Person as a man, but with faith in their authority, given them by God, so is the same pattern. Is that making sense?
Penny [00:05:04.17] Yes, it is. OK.
Beatty: [00:05:05.94] And to try to articulate and illustrate faith as it relates to authority, we use a simple example of a private trying to arrest a colonel because a private has no authority over a colonel. Yeah. Unless the general gave him the authority. And then even when the general gave authority to the private to go arrest the colonel. What we found is that one private couldn’t arrest the colonel because he really didn’t understand the authority that he carried. But another private did, until we see that this concept of authority is really important, and in fact, Jesus talked about it with the centurion. The story this Ontarian and the sectarians tells Jesus, you don’t need to come under my roof, I’m unworthy, and the centurion says I too am a man under authority, and because owners understand authority, simply give the word. And I know my servant will be healed. I remember what Jesus said about that, A.N..
Penny [00:06:10.81] He said that he had never seen greater faith. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:06:15.64] And why did that centurion have such great faith?
Penny [00:06:20.39] Hmm. Because he understood positions of authority. That’s it.
Beatty: [00:06:25.40] That’s exactly right. And so what we see and what we covered last week or last session anyway, was that faith is what gives you the ability to walk in the authority that you have. And so today, tying in to that authority, we’re going to take a look at Jesus and asked the question, did Jesus model for us walking by faith when he performed his miracles? And in other words, think about this if Jesus modeled faith, then it means that he would have to be doing this miracles in his position as man and not in his position as God, since he would have to be like us to model what we two could do. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:07:14.80] Yes. Yes, it does.
Beatty: [00:07:16.87] However, if Jesus, as some people say, well, you know, how did Jesus do miracles? Jesus did miracles because he’s fully God. So get over it. You know, that’s kind of their attitude, you know, and end of subject. He’s fully God. That’s the explanation. But I don’t think that answers the right question because it if he did his miracles in his position is God. Then he could not have modeled how we could walk by faith, because it wouldn’t have been faith that he was walking in because he would have been walking his God and we’re not God. OK, kind of a convoluted way to say, but does that make sense? Why? I’m trying to say.
Penny [00:07:57.37] Yeah, it does. Absolutely.
Beatty: [00:07:58.99] Ok, so we have to answer the question. If Jesus did all of his miracles, his God, how does man do the miracles? Hmm. But let’s look at what the scripture has to talk about when it says about these miracles, unless then come to the conclusion on today’s call. Do the scriptures indicate that Jesus did his miracles? In his position has been fully God. Or did he somehow do his miracles in his combined position as fully man and fully God? So are you ready to take a deep dove and hopefully be shallow enough that we can all kind of understand it?
Penny [00:08:45.31] Yes, absolutely.
Beatty: [00:08:47.11] Ok, so I’ve already kind of given some clues. I want to talk about the dual positions of Jesus. OK, OK. So as we mentioned last week, I keep using the word last week. I don’t know. It wasn’t last week when we recorded the last session, but when we did the last session at the beginning, I talked about this concept that some people believe in in order to try to understand and make sense of of how we could be doing the same miracles that Jesus did. We meaning his disciples. I mean, it’s it’s all through the New Testament. His disciples did miracles all through the Old Testament. Prophets did miracles. So how does that happen if Jesus did it as God? Now, what we do know is that the scriptures tell that Jesus is fully God and fully man. So some people wrongfully believe that when Jesus did miracles, he did those miracles as fully man. Totally eliminating that is fully God, in other words, they kind of come to the conclusion, well, Jesus must be two persons. The person of man and the person of God. No, but that is contrary to what Scripture says. Scripture says that Jesus has one. Yes. And as one, he’s both fully God and fully man simultaneously. And there’s no way to separate the two. That’s right. OK, so what’s then the solution? And I think the solution is what scripture seem to indicate for us.
Beatty: [00:10:21.59] And that as one person, he has two positions, painfully man, fully God. He has the position of acting in his position as man. And sometimes he acts in his position as God, and sometimes he acts in kind of a deal position. Let me say this makes sense. Just a quick illustration, something in today’s world. I am married and I am a business owner. So you could say that I am fully husband and fully business owner and at the same time. But I’m one person. Does that make sense? Absolutely. Yeah. OK. When I sign a contract for my business, I’m doing that in my position as a business owner. But not my position has been husband, because being husband has nothing to do with it. Yeah. When I when I take my wife out on a date, I’m doing that as my position has been fully husband. But it has nothing to do with me being a business owner. Yeah, but if I were to make a major decision that impacts both, let’s say we were going to consider selling our business, we’re not. But if we were, then I would be acting both as fully husband and fully business owner, because the impact includes both of them. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:11:37.54] It does, absolutely. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:11:39.58] So when we take that understanding and apply it to Jesus, let’s look at this. Jesus was the son of man and son of God. He used both of those terms. But what do they mean? And without getting too theological, you know, son, a man comes from prophecies and it but but essentially, here’s a simple way to understand it. In son a man. That means he’s fully man. This is what the Bible claims when it calls him Jesus of Nazareth. Like x10 38 says God anointed Jesus of Nazareth with power in the Holy Spirit. So when is talking about Jesus of Nazareth? It’s talking about the man Jesus. The position of him being fully man. And then sometimes it talks about Jesus as the son of God, which is a position of deity being fully God. OK, that’s maybe Jesus the Christ, the Messiah. Do you are you following me so far with these? Yeah. OK. So then I would say that Jesus does some things in his position as man. That has no influence or impact of his position as God. And there are other things that he does in his position as God that have no impact of his position as man. And there are some things he does in that deal position, just like with me as a business owner. So can you think of anything Jesus may have done in his position as man that would not have. Required his position as God.
Penny [00:13:23.71] I would say I mean, I’m just thinking of him being a carpenter or, you know, whatever his trade was. OK. He probably was just doing that as him, just as Jesus. As man.
Beatty: [00:13:36.88] Yeah. OK, let me let me throw some things out. That would be maybe more simple to understand. But you’re right. You’re correct. When Jesus got tired or when Jesus became hungry, or, by the way, do you think Jesus ever had to go to the bathroom?
Penny [00:13:54.32] Yeah, of course. OK.
Beatty: [00:13:56.23] So when he had to go to the bathroom, were those being done in his position as God or simply in his position as man?
Penny [00:14:03.10] Just as man.
Beatty: [00:14:04.30] Ok. So there are things that he can do that are sick, simply his position as man that have no impact of his position as God. Correct. But it doesn’t remove that he’s fully God. It just means that those things were done in the position of man.
Penny [00:14:19.15] That’s correct.
Beatty: [00:14:19.94] Ok. Now, when Jesus forgave sins. Was he doing that in the position of guide or a position of man,
Penny [00:14:29.48] A position of God?
Beatty: [00:14:30.80] Yeah, because only God can forgive sins, right? Yeah. But was he still fully man walking in his position as man?
Penny [00:14:39.50] Yes.
Beatty: [00:14:40.67] Yes. But the action of forgiving sins had nothing to do with this position of being man. Right?
Penny [00:14:47.25] That’s correct. OK.
Beatty: [00:14:48.93] And then let’s look at one other example. OK. And please stop me if any of this is getting confusing, I’m trying to keep it. OK.
Penny [00:14:55.41] It’s actually great. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:14:56.76] Ok, so one other example is when Jesus lived a perfect, sinless life, that was in a deal possession of both as position as man, because that’s where living a life on earth is. And position has God been totally sinless. So now we see something that impacts and requires both positions at the same time.
Penny [00:15:19.86] Yes. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:15:21.36] So that’s what we’re talking about when we talk about Jesus doing miracles in his position as man with faith in the authority he holds as his position as God. And so now what I want to do is I want to explore a little bit more what the Bible shows in terms of did Jesus model that. So we’re making the the we’re making the presumption, the assumption or the was the the hypothesis. That when Jesus did miracles, he did them in a position as man, not as God. OK. And one of the things to really look at is this concept of modeling. Was he modeling what we could do? So let’s take a look at something at that. So let me start with a simple set of questions, OK? If I showed you how to cook a meal. Do you have the ability to copy me and cook a similar meal?
Penny [00:16:26.46] Yes. OK.
Beatty: [00:16:28.32] If you don’t do it exactly as I showed you to then as a teacher, would I have the right to rebuke you for doing it wrong?
Penny [00:16:38.05] Yes.
Beatty: [00:16:39.46] Ok. And why is that?
Penny [00:16:41.20] I wouldn’t like you if you did. Right.
Beatty: [00:16:44.93] But but OK. If you had hired me, if you had hired me to teach you to cook, then do I have the right to rebuke you without you getting upset? Yes. OK, OK, great. Yes. All right. So but why do I have the right to rebuke you?
Penny [00:16:58.84] Because you are. Well, in a sense, authority over me. Because you know something? I don’t know. So you’re teaching me something that’s new to me.
Beatty: [00:17:08.65] Ok, perfect. As a teacher, I have authority. I have the right and the objective of teaching you to become like I am. Right. Yeah. That’s actually the definition of a disciple, one who becomes as his teacher. Yeah. OK, so I’m discipline you to cook. Now, let’s look at another example. My niece is a double amputee. By choice, OK, because she was born with severe club feet. She has no feet. And and so you and the listeners out there don’t think I’m being really critical. She’s the first one to say I will I will never be defeated again. She actually put that on her resume. I will never be defeated again. And I don’t know if you know this, but whenever you compare her to others around her, she’s always two feet shorter. So. And that’s one of her jokes. OK, so she she she is an amazing young woman on that. So let me ask you a question. If I showed her how to put shoes on, how to put on shoes and socks, does she have the ability to put shoes and socks on her feet?
Penny [00:18:22.14] She does have the ability,
Beatty: [00:18:24.48] But she has no feet. Correct. So she doesn’t have the ability.
Penny [00:18:28.65] Correct.
Beatty: [00:18:29.58] She doesn’t have. The physical features to do what I’m teaching her to do, OK? Yeah. So then if I showed her how to do it and she didn’t do it, do I have the right to rebuke her? No, and why not?
Penny [00:18:46.73] Because she doesn’t have feet,
Beatty: [00:18:48.47] Because it’s impossible for her to do what I did. Yeah. OK. So what we learn about rebuking is you can really only rebuke someone for not doing something that they could have done. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:19:03.14] It does, yeah.
Beatty: [00:19:04.46] So then what about Jesus? If he rebuked his disciples for not acting in faith? Does that mean that they had the ability to to Abbett, acted in faith and done and done that? Hmm.
Penny [00:19:20.87] Yes. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:19:23.37] Could that mean that he was expecting them to do it because he was teaching them to do it? Yes, absolutely. And if he was teaching them, how did he teach in just quite a lecture classroom setting or modeling by example?
Penny [00:19:40.11] Modeling by example.
Beatty: [00:19:41.56] Oh, OK. So now we’re starting to narrow this down that it appears he could have been modeling, walking by faith because he did rebuke when they did not do it by faith. So let’s take a look at the scriptures. Can we do that? We can. OK. So for faith to be faith, it has to have an object. It has to be tied to something. Faith doesn’t exist by itself in in a vacuum. You don’t just kind of have faith internally, OK? You have to be focused on something. And we talked on our last session that faith is tied to authority, that when you walk by faith. What it really means is you’re walking in the authority that you’ve been given. That’s what we saw with the general in the private. In the kernel. OK. Mm hmm. So that means that if to walk by faith, we have to have been given the authority to walk in. So let’s look at some points in the Bible where man was given authority. Can we do that? All right. So we’ll keep all this and easy for you just to keep it simple. OK, let’s start with the beginning. Let’s go to Genesis one, 26.
Penny [00:20:53.51] Ok, Genesis one, verse 26 reads, then God said, let us make man in our image after our likeness and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea and over the birds of the heavens and over the livestock and over all the earth and over every creeping thing that creeps on the earth.
Beatty: [00:21:15.58] Oh, let them have dominion. Is that authority?
Penny [00:21:19.16] Yes.
Beatty: [00:21:20.33] And what is their authority over?
Penny [00:21:23.51] All the animals, everything on the earth, everything. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:21:27.29] Over all the Earth.
Penny [00:21:29.16] Mm hmm.
Beatty: [00:21:30.26] When Jesus healed a sick person was that authority over something of the earth? Yes. When Jesus defied the physical laws and walked on the water, was that authority over something of the Earth?
Penny [00:21:47.04] Yes.
Beatty: [00:21:48.09] When Jesus multiplied the food that came from the earth, it was that authority over something of the earth.
Penny [00:21:55.23] It was
Beatty: [00:21:56.46] Ok. So we start to see that authority over the earth and all the things has possibly a wide ranging understanding. Let’s look at Mark six, seven.
Penny [00:22:08.95] Ok, well, let’s see. All right, Mark, six verse seven reads. And he called the 12 and began to send them out to buy two and gave them authority over the unclean spirits.
Beatty: [00:22:25.97] Oh, so he gave them authority. So now we say that Jesus has fully God is now extending God’s authority to his. Disciples, right? Mm hmm. And we know that this isn’t limited just to the 12. It is in this case. But in another case, he then gives his disciples, the 72 disciples, the same authority. Right. OK. And then we know that he gives authority even more. And the great commission. Let’s look at one other spot. Let’s go down to Matthew. Nine versus two through eight. OK, real interesting.
Penny [00:23:04.86] All right, Matthew, nine verse two through eight and behold, some people brought to him a paralytic lying on a bed. And when Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralytic, Take heart, my son, your sins are forgiven. And behold, some of the scribes said to themselves, this man is blasphemy. But Jesus, knowing their thoughts, said, Why do you think evil in your heart, for which is easier to say, your sins are forgiven. Or to say, rise and walk. But that you may know that the son of man has authority on earth to forgive sins. He then said that the paralytic rise. Pick up your bed and go home. And he rose and went home. When the crowd saw it, they were afraid. And they glorified God who had given such authority to men. Wow.
Beatty: [00:24:01.20] And they glorify God who had given such authority to men. Mm hmm. Is Matthew quoting what the people said or is he making a statement of fact from God?
Penny [00:24:17.80] Well, I mean, it was an observation that he saw, so.
Beatty: [00:24:22.39] Well, read it so it says
Penny [00:24:24.22] When the crowd saw it, they were afraid and they glorify God who had given such authority to men.
Beatty: [00:24:32.05] Right, so who had given such authority demand, does that point back to God or part point back to them giving glory?
Penny [00:24:40.45] It points back to God.
Beatty: [00:24:41.92] Yeah, so so Matthew is making a statement here or God is making a statement that God had given such authority to men. Mm hmm. So when God gave authority to men, notice that it’s plural, not singular, you know, saying God gave authority to a man. God gave authority to men. Do you see where I’m going? Yep. So while we may not have all the answers of exactly what that means, here’s what’s clear. And what’s clear is that God has given authority to man in Genesis and all these other passages we see, we saw it last time in the great commission. And so now that we have established that man has been given authority and faith has to be tied to that authority, is faith to do miracles at least then. Let’s now look at. What little closer what Jesus may seem to be teaching his disciples about faith, OK? And that authority. So we’re going to shift to another passage, John, six versus five through six, that this is where Jesus feeds the 5000 men. And this is a lesson on the power of faith, the power and the authority that drives that power. OK, so, John, six versus five and six.
Penny [00:26:09.22] Ok. Lifting up his eyes then and seeing that a large crowd was coming toward him, Jesus said to fill up the key. Where are we to buy bread so that these people may eat? He said this to test him, for he himself knew what he would do.
Beatty: [00:26:27.92] Oh, so why was Jesus going to feed the 5000 people? Was it they come from a long way and they’re hungry and worn out. And he had compassion? Yes, very definitely could be. Could it be that he was trying to feed them because they didn’t have any place to buy food? Yes, it could be. But a little bit later, Phillips says, you know, 200 Dennery is not enough to go and buy food and bread for all of them. So that kind of indicates that maybe there are places to buy food.
Penny [00:27:02.77] Just not enough food once they get there because they had so many people possibly.
Beatty: [00:27:08.32] But we can make these type of assumptions. But they’d only be assumptions because we don’t have anything scripturally to back it up. But let’s look at scripture and see why Jesus was going to feed the 5000. So go back to this and tell me if you find anything here on what the scripture says.
Penny [00:27:33.22] Well, he says seeing that a large crowd was coming toward him. So we know that there’s a large crowd, right? He already knew what he was going to do. Right. And the question is, where are we to buy bread almost?
Beatty: [00:27:53.50] The answer to the question, why is he said this to test him? Why do you think the scriptures telling us that the purpose for Jesus asking Philip. How to feed all these people was to test for
Penny [00:28:09.79] Because he wanted to see if Philip had faith.
Beatty: [00:28:12.46] Yeah, because it now if Philip had no ability to do anything, he would simply be mocking Philip. Mm hmm. But it says that he’s testing Ploog. Does a teacher test her mock?
Penny [00:28:26.81] Test. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:28:28.73] And what does the tests show?
Penny [00:28:33.29] Well, usually where you are academically.
Beatty: [00:28:35.96] Yeah, how well, you know the material, right? Yeah. OK, so it says that the reason to feed the 5000 was to test his disciples surplus testing them. What was the test?
Penny [00:28:50.88] The test was. Did Philip have faith? I think I think he’s he’s testing his faith level because Jesus already knew what he was going to do. But does fill at this point who we know has already been with Jesus. He’s already seen what Jesus can do. Does Philip have faith that Jesus can do a miracle?
Beatty: [00:29:12.40] Does Philip have faith that Jesus can do it? Or was he testing Philip to see if Philip would have faith to do it himself?
Penny [00:29:20.77] Maybe.
Beatty: [00:29:22.00] Maybe. OK, so let’s let’s consider both of those assumptions as we go a little bit further into this. Okay. Now, what we actually know is. That he was testing to see if they would do it himself. And we know this by scripture. So let’s look at the counterpart to this story. Let’s turn over to mark six versus 45 through 52. OK, so in Mark, this is the end of the story. They have just fed the 5000. They just picked up the 12 baskets full. And now in mark six, first 40 to 45, we pick up from there and we’re going to read the rest of the story.
Penny [00:30:06.53] Ok, OK. Immediately, he made his disciples get into the boat and go before him to the other side, to Beth Syeda, where he dismissed the crowd. And after he had taken leave of them, he went up on the mountain to pray. And when evening came, the boat was out on the sea and he was alone on the land. And he saw that they were making headway painfully for the wind was against them. And about the fourth watch of the night, he came to them walking on the sea. He meant to pass by them, but when they saw him walking on the sea, they thought it was a ghost and they cried out for they all all saw him and were terrified. But immediately he spoke to them and said, take heart. It is I do not be afraid. And he got into the boat with them and the wind ceased. And they were utterly astounded. For they did not understand about the loaves, but their hearts were hardened, hardened.
Beatty: [00:31:08.71] So what ties this back into the test with Philip or testing his disciples? OK, I think Philip was the typical object, but he’s teaching something to his disciples. So what in this passage ties it back to the test on feeding the 5000?
Penny [00:31:24.23] Well, he said it said that they did not understand about the loaves are,
Beatty: [00:31:29.60] So why would God tell us very specifically? That they were utterly astounded by Jesus walking on the water and tie that back to for they did not understand about the loaves. Does it does it seem like like the Lord is trying to tell us that the loaves and walking on the water are interconnected?
Penny [00:32:00.60] Yes, maybe.
Beatty: [00:32:01.98] And if it says and they because they did not understand about the lows, does that seem to indicate that something’s trying to be taught them about the loaves?
Penny [00:32:14.44] Yes.
Beatty: [00:32:15.34] Ok, so now we start to see a little bit more of the rest of the picture, we got to look a little bit closer at it to really grasp it. But I believe this is showing that the feeding of the 5000. Was to demonstrate what they themselves could do by faith. Because keep in mind, when he’s walking on the water, this is when Peter Stepdown walks on the water, too, and then he sinks and Jesus says, you have little faith. He rebukes Jesus a rebukes Peter for lack of faith. And then we can pick up right here, for they did not understand about the loaves. It’s all tied together. So I think what was happening is Jesus is teaching his disciples. About the power of faith and that they had the authority to do it themselves. That’s why Jesus would have tested Philip. Hey, how are we going to get food for all these people? Jesus knew what he was going to do, his testing to see if he would step out by faith. Then Jesus come walking on the water. Peter comes out to you and he thinks, Jesus says you have little faith. And then it says. And they were utterly astounded because they did not understand about the loaves. And there is one other thing that’s really interesting in this passage. And it says, and the wind immediately ceased. Could it be that the wind was part of the test? It might be because it immediately ceased as soon as they got in, and nowhere in scripture does it tell us that he commanded the wind to be calm. So it’s almost as if the wind was there during the time of the test to see how they would respond. And then once the test is over, then the wind stops. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:34:04.67] Yes, it does. Absolutely. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:34:06.95] So what I think Jesus is trying to teach us, what the Bible is teaching us here is now this is kind of my my connection to connecting the dots is that living in the authority of the supernatural is not only within our grasp, but he expects us to do it. And I think we’ll see that more when we look at those things that are rebukes as disciples on. So are you ready to look at being rebuked?
Penny [00:34:33.20] Yes. Yes, of course.
Beatty: [00:34:35.69] Ok. So we spoke earlier that if a teacher rebukes us to see his students for something, then it’s because he expected them to do it and and that they had the ability to do it, OK. So let’s look at some of the examples when Jesus rebukes his disciples. Let’s start with Matthew, 16 versus five through 10.
Penny [00:35:00.25] Ok. Let’s see. All right, Matthew, 16. Verse five through 10 says when the disciples reached the other side, they had forgotten to bring any bread. Jesus said to them. Watch and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees insurgences. And they began discussing it among themselves, saying, We brought no bread, but Jesus, aware of this, said, oh, you of little faith.
Beatty: [00:35:34.33] All right, now. So oh, you of little faith. Is that a rebuke?
Penny [00:35:39.72] Yes.
Beatty: [00:35:40.77] Ok, so now he’s rebuking them and now he’s going to teach them something about faith. So watch this. Keep going.
Penny [00:35:47.55] Ok. Oh, you have little faith. Why are you discussing among yourselves the fact that you have no bread? Do you not yet perceive do you not remember the five loaves or for the 5000? And how many baskets you gathered or the seven loaves for the four thousand and how many baskets you gathered? OK.
Beatty: [00:36:07.86] How is so you can stop there. So now he says, do you not remember? In other words, Jesus is indicating that both of those times are feeding the 5000 and feeding the 4000. Were training examples, he said, Do you not remember what happened by faith? They were complaining, well, we have no bread, and Jesus is saying, don’t you remember I was teaching you? It doesn’t matter how much you have, you have the authority to multiply. Now, those are obviously my words, but that’s what I think is is Jesus is showing them that Jesus did those examples to model for them what they had the authority to do by faith. That’s the only reason he would rebuke them. You have little faith. Is that are you seeing that? Are you seeing this pattern?
Penny [00:36:58.07] Yes. Yeah. Okay.
Beatty: [00:36:59.87] So let’s look at let’s go to Matthew, 14 and versus 25 to 32. Matthew, 14, 25 to 32, so this is walking on the water. This is just like what we came through with Mark, OK, this is Matthew’s version of walking on the water. Let’s look at this one.
Penny [00:37:19.54] Ok. And in the fourth watch of the night, he came to them walking on the sea. But when the disciples saw him walking on the sea, they were terrified and said it is a ghost. And they cried out in fear. But immediately, Jesus spoke to them, saying, take heart. It is I do not be afraid. And Peter asked him, Lord, if it is you command me to come to you on the water. So Jesus said, come. Peter got out of the boat and walked on the water and came to Jesus. But when he saw the wind, he was afraid. And he began to sink and cried out, Lord, save me. Jesus immediately reached out his hand and took hold of him, saying to him, Oh, you of little faith, why do you doubt? And when he got into the boat, the wind ceased.
Beatty: [00:38:10.09] Ok, so now here we have another rebuke. You have little faith. Why did you doubt OK. When Jesus rebuked Peter. Does that mean that Jesus expected Peter to have continued walking on the water?
Penny [00:38:26.91] Yes. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:38:28.65] Yeah. Does that mean that Peter had the ability to have continued?
Penny [00:38:34.56] Yes.
Beatty: [00:38:36.93] And does that mean that when Jesus walked on the water? Is it possible that he was walking on the water to model what they could do?
Penny [00:38:49.83] Absolutely. OK.
Beatty: [00:38:52.20] Notice here, this is also. And they got in the boat and the wind. So we see the same thing here as we saw back in March, that the wind ceased immediately when they got in the bar in the boat, which again makes me think, OK, the wind must have been part of the test. Part of the test would be. This is how I would envision it. It’s a lot harder to have faith in your authority to walk on the water when you see three and four foot waves and and, you know, water spraying everywhere because the wind was roaring. That’s basically what’s happening here. It’s a roaring wind. OK, so so we see that it sounds like Peter’s rebuke. Peter’s been rebuked because he could have done it more. And therefore, Jesus, as a teacher, modeling what they could do, walking on water. Let’s look at another spot. Let’s go to Luke eight, verse 22 through 25.
Penny [00:39:51.27] Ok, all right, Luke, eight. Twenty two. Through 25, one day, he got into a boat with his disciples and he said to them, let us go across to the other side of the lake. So they set out and as they sailed, he Jesus fell asleep.
Beatty: [00:40:11.23] I stopped for a moment. If he fell asleep, would that be in his position as man or position? Is God
Penny [00:40:17.67] A man?
Beatty: [00:40:18.48] Yeah. So here we have you know, he’s a real man.
Penny [00:40:21.33] Keep going in a windstorm, came down on the lake and they were and they were filling with water and were in danger. And they went and woke Jesus saying, master master, we are perishing. And he awoke and he rebuked the wind and the raging waves, and they ceased. And there was a calm. He said to them, where is your faith?
Beatty: [00:40:44.64] All right. Stop there. Where is your faith? That’s a rebuke. Yeah. OK, let’s look at an additional ending. Go to Mark for verses 39 through 40. This is the same same situation with Mark’s information on on that ending.
Penny [00:41:06.90] Ok, Mark, for verse 39 and 40. OK, it says. And and he awoke and rebuked the wind and said to the sea. Peace be still in. The wind ceased. And there was a great calm. And he said to them, why are you so afraid? Have you still no faith?
Beatty: [00:41:27.69] Have you still no faith? That’s a rebuke. That’s even a stronger rebuke, isn’t it? Yeah. Yeah. Do you still know Faith? So when he rebukes his disciples for no faith, could that mean that he was expecting them to have calmed the storm?
Penny [00:41:44.34] Yes. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:41:46.87] Why would he rebuke them otherwise? So let’s look at another example. Let’s go to Matthew, 17 verses 14 through 20. This is the boy with the demon.
Penny [00:42:00.22] Ok, Matthew, 17 verses 14 through 20, it says. And when they came to the crowd, a man came up to him and kneeling before him said, Lord, have mercy on my son, for he has seizures and he suffers terribly for often. He falls into the fire and often into the water. And I brought him to your disciples and they could not heal him. And Jesus answered, oh, faithless and twisted generation. How long am I to be with you? OK, start.
Beatty: [00:42:30.34] That’s a rebuke, isn’t it? Yes. And we see it in another passage that he speaks this to his disciples. OK, so rebuke rebuking his. He’s not rebuking the man, the father of the boy. He’s rebuking in his disciples. All right. So now continue.
Penny [00:42:45.34] How long am I to bear with you? Bring him here to me. And Jesus rebuked the demon and it came out of him. And the boy was healed instantly. Then the disciples came to Jesus privately and said, why could we not cast it out? And he said to them, because of your little faith, for truly, I say to you, if you have faith, like a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain moved from here to there, and it will move and nothing will be impossible for you.
Beatty: [00:43:15.58] Oh, so he rebukes his disciples for little faith. Then he tells them why he rebuked them. Because of your little faith, that’s why you could not do it. So when he rebuked the disciples for not casting out that demon, does that mean that he expected them to have done it themselves? Hmm. And then why? Look, also, as soon as he says because of your little faith, he then adds another statement. If you have faith, like a grain of mustard seed, you will say to this mountain, be moved here to there, and it will move and nothing will be impossible to you. Jesus given to flowery, exaggerated language, or is he given to telling the truth?
Penny [00:44:04.22] Straightforward, the truth, straightforward?
Beatty: [00:44:06.86] Yeah. If he’s rebuking his disciples in all these things that calming the storm, walking on the water and rebuking them for too little faith, who cast out this demon and he immediately follows up with with faith, nothing would be impossible to you. And it starts to give us something that maybe he’s trying to teach them. He’s teaching by example. But now, in a kind of a classroom setting a lecture, he’s saying, if you have faith, you can even say to this mountain to be moved and will happen and nothing will be impossible to you. And he’s telling this to his disciples. He’s telling this to man, OK. Mm hmm. So in all these. It appears that Jesus is actually modeling how to walk by faith. That’s what that does. That’s the conclusion I come to with all of this, is it appears that he’s modeling how to walk by faith. And let me test you real quick. If they were to walk in faith, what is the object of that faith? In other words, what were they to have faith in?
Penny [00:45:15.29] Him and Jimmy and what he said and what he’s modeled to them to do almost.
Beatty: [00:45:22.13] Let’s go a little bit deeper. I would say their faith would be in their authority that he gave them or their authority that God gave them from Genesis. And prophets of all did miracles or even nonprofit’s name. And the Syrian army wasn’t a prophet. But when those miracles happen is all because they operated or obeyed by faith and their faith was in the authority of the one who directed them. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:45:54.77] Yeah, it does.
Beatty: [00:45:55.94] And so it appears as we go through all this now, what Jesus is doing is he’s modeling, but walking by faith in that authority is Jesus has all authority. So when he models faith, his faith is in his own authority as God. But when the disciples walked by faith, their authority, their faith is in the authority extended them. By God. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:46:25.38] Yes, it does.
Beatty: [00:46:27.84] So let’s wrap up and I want to talk about some some takeaways. OK, OK. Four takeaways. Number one, I believe this is showing that Jesus modeled how to walk by faith. If he rebuked his disciples for not doing what he did. Then you got to conclude that they had the ability to do it.
Penny [00:46:50.18] Yes. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:46:52.37] And if you say that Jesus did all the miracles in his position, is God then sent his disciples aren’t God. They couldn’t have done what Jesus did. That means Jesus would not have the right to have rebuked them, so we kind of see this the rebuking as a key factor here in understanding whether Jesus was modeling or not. Does that make sense?
Penny [00:47:15.45] It does, yeah. OK.
Beatty: [00:47:18.36] The second takeaway we come up with is Jesus is still fully God. OK, this doesn’t take away from his deity at all. The deity is he is God. He has full authority in heaven, on earth as God. That’s what makes him fully God. Right.
Penny [00:47:38.44] Yes. OK.
Beatty: [00:47:40.54] Simply to say that. He acted in his position as a man with faith in his authority, as God doesn’t remove his deity, it just says, OK, there are multiple things going on here. So like when I make a I plan to sell the business, I’m acting both as fully husband and fully business owner because it kind of impacts all of it. But they’re they’re separate components of what’s going on.
Penny [00:48:07.98] Yes.
Beatty: [00:48:09.56] Is that making sense or am I clear? Is that kind of.
Penny [00:48:11.91] No, you’re very clear. Yeah, it makes perfect sense. OK.
Beatty: [00:48:16.08] The third takeaway is that we’ve been given authority by God. God gave man dominion over the earth. Jesus gave his authority to heal the sick, cast out demons, cleanse the lepers and raise the dead. As we saw last time in the Great Commission, Jesus gives his authority to do his will, to make disciples of all nations and to teach them to do what he commanded. You remember that?
Penny [00:48:47.26] I do, yeah.
Beatty: [00:48:48.94] And we’re part of those commands to operate in the miraculous.
Penny [00:48:53.92] Yes.
Beatty: [00:48:54.82] Ok. So in order to do his will, he has to empower us with the tools to do it. OK. And do you remember, though, the illustration I shared on her last episode about the crane operator?
Penny [00:49:09.49] Yes, OK.
Beatty: [00:49:10.99] So it was the companies will that that crane operator do his work, but he couldn’t do it on his own. So the company provided the tools to do it and trained him how to use those tools. Mm hmm. That is what I think we’re seeing here. Jesus has called us to do his will. We don’t have the ability to do it on our own. So you gave us the tools, the authority and the faith. And then he’s trained us to do it by modeling it and teaching it. Hmm. OK. Yeah. And the other bit of authority we also see is in Ephesians, where it says that we sit on the throne with Jesus in the heavenly places. And that throne is a position of authority of all authority. And then the final take away that we get from this. Is that the object of our faith is in the authority given us, in other words, Jesus isn’t teaching that if you simply believe on your own, you can do it. That it’s all about you. He’s not teaching like that church I mentioned on the last call that taught well. You know, if you just have faith in God, your son will live without insulin. OK, the diabetic son. And and and that’s that’s a wrong teaching. OK. I mean, is there some technicality? That’s correct. But its application is wrong because they’re missing what it is. The fact that we have this in the authority given us. And and it’s not just in simply believing of our own will and the Bible is clear on this, it says that faith comes from hearing the word of Christ. So it’s only from hearing that word that we have the faith. And then as it relates to the miraculous, OK, we know that that faith is rooted in knowing God’s authority granted us. We kind of we saw this with the centurion because he understood authority. He understood faith. Yes. We saw it with a private arresting the cardinal, the private who understood his authority was able to act. And the quote unquote, miraculous. A private arresting a colonel.
Penny [00:51:32.94] Yeah.
Beatty: [00:51:33.78] Ok. So we kind of see these things rumbling through all of this before we fully close and wrap up. Are there any questions that you might be imagining? Some of our listeners might be thinking?
Penny [00:51:52.20] I think the one that probably stands out the most that I’m sure you’ve heard and I’ve heard many, many times is OK, well, how do I get how do I increase my faith? How do I get to the point where I have that kind of faith?
Beatty: [00:52:08.31] You know, that’s really interesting. We’re going to touch on that a little bit on the next session. But let me give you something I found really interesting. You remember on the passage we just read about the epileptic demon that Jesus cast out, the disciples couldn’t. And they said, why could we not? And he said, because of your little faith. Well, there’s another passage, another section of that same example, same the same thing going on that Jesus gives a slightly different response. And do you remember what that different response was?
Penny [00:52:39.81] I think I do. I think he said this one only comes out through prayer and fasting. Am I?
Beatty: [00:52:45.96] So this
Penny [00:52:47.88] Was the same
Beatty: [00:52:48.36] Story? Yeah, it’s the same story. So in the same story, Jesus gives us two answers in two different parts of the gospels. And I think he’s teaching us something. You just have to go look for it. He says that prayer and fasting is the lack of prayer, and fasting is the reason for their little faith. So one way that you increase your faith is through prayer and fasting.
Penny [00:53:14.36] Well, OK,
Beatty: [00:53:15.93] We’ll talk maybe. In fact, you can go back to some of the other than what is fasting. We we discussed that on. How do you hear God speak to you? Yeah. The other part to increase your faith is faith is understanding authority. So the more you understand authority and the more you understand your authority, given you by God, the greater your faith. So I think there’s not a simple, you know, three step formula, but it it ties into understanding authority, time in prayer, time and fasting time and seeking the Lord. And the other thing that we find is faith is a spiritual entity, a spiritual substance, not in the physical. And the flesh is always against the spirit. It says in Romans eight, let your mind dwell, dwell in the spirit and not on the flesh. And so we see that putting to death the flesh helps us live and operate in the spirit. And in the spirit is where our authority and the faith is. So. There’s also that element of denying yourself putting to death yourself. And part of that is this whole thing of immediate obedience. You know, we talked last time. Authority was taught in middle military schools through immediate obedience. Yes. Okay. So all of those things, I think, are kind of wrapped into how do you increase your faith?
Penny [00:54:39.84] Yeah, that’s good. That’s a good answer. I like that. I think the part that stuck out to me probably the most was this very last passage that we read and the way Jesus ends that passage where he says if you have faith, like the grain of a mustard seed, you can say that this mountain moved from here and it will move and nothing will be impossible for you. So for me that nothing will be impossible for you is just a reminder for me to keep myself in a position of. OK, Penny, do you believe that you truly are seeded with Christ and the heavenly realm? And if I do believe that, then I have faith because I know the authority that’s been given to me based on where I’m seated. If that makes sense, it
Beatty: [00:55:29.52] Makes a lot of sense. I would say I would qualify that with one other statement. The mountain moving is the evidence of your faith. Yeah. So let me get a story. A good close friend of ours, their daughter had missing had a miscarriage and it’s devastated their family. But before that, they were all praying and believing in faith. The baby would live and then the baby died. And the question is. But they they really believe by faith. No, they didn’t. Because by definition, had they had the faith, the baby would have lived because with faith, nothing is impossible. So we have to be careful by saying simply because I think I believe. Do I really have faith? Does that make sense? Yeah. It’s a fine line, but it’s a clear line. We’ve got to understand that faith is the mountain moving. Faith is the baby living. If the mountain doesn’t move, the baby doesn’t live. You did not have faith in what Jesus is teaching, what faith is, what’s good.
Penny [00:56:42.40] Well, Beatty, I think it’s about time that we wrap up for today. I really appreciate all the time and effort you put into this study and just teaching us more about faith and our authority in Christ. And and this was a great, great call. Do you have anything further to add to our listeners before we say goodbye for this one?
Beatty: [00:57:02.83] You know, other than to please subscribe so you get more of this, please share it with others and be sure to listen to these multiple times because you’ll pick up more that that you missed the first time. And the more you understand, the more amazing you’ll be at your walk with the Lord is going to be.
Penny [00:57:19.90] I would I would second that for sure. Well, thank you so much. We appreciate it. And thank you to all of you who are listening. I completely agree with Beatty. Please try to listen to it again so that you can get something new the next time and make sure you subscribe and share. And we will be talking with you again soon.
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