Penny: [00:00:00.06] Well, hello, everyone. This is Penny Thomas. Welcome to this next session of Gensler’s calling you with Beatty. Carmichael Beatty is the CEO of Master Grabber, the creator of Agent Dominator and one of the top marketing experts in the real estate field. Beatty. I’m thrilled to be joining you again today. What do we have for our listeners?
Beatty: [00:00:22.92] Well, today, Penny, we have another topic that’s dear to my heart. If this topic was not in my life, I would be a total wreck. Wow. But this has nothing to do with real estate. So this is part of our topic series of what we call radical faith. Hope. For those of you just joining in on our podcast, we do two types of podcast in this channel. One is real estate marketing and the other is living as a Christian. So if you don’t have any interest in the living as a Christian topic, just go on and cancel out of this episode and join us on the next one. But if you do, then you’re going to really enjoy this topic, because today I want to talk about how do you hear God speak to you? Yeah, and I think that’s a topic that a lot of people wonder with, wonder about, struggle with. And some people actually believe that he doesn’t speak anymore. So that’s kind of where we’re going to try to delve into today. Does that work with you?
Penny: [00:01:25.95] Yeah, that sounds great. I’m super excited about this.
Beatty: [00:01:29.19] Well, I am, too. And this is going to be a little bit different radical faith than most of our previous sessions we’ve done Penny because I’m not going to teach so much from the Bible because the Bible is not real clear, somewhat silent on this subject. I mean, it’s it’s throughout the Bible. But this isn’t like a moral activity or moral righteousness, OK, this is more of a that relationship and walk with the Lord. So there’s not that much biblical content on it. So a lot of what I’ll be sharing and probably you as well, is just going to be what we’ve learned in this realm and how to start applying it. So let me ask you a question. Does God speak to you, Penny?
Penny: [00:02:17.15] He does,
Beatty: [00:02:19.19] Does he speak to everyone? Ah, let me rephrase. Does he speak to all Christians?
Penny: [00:02:27.39] I believe he does.
Beatty: [00:02:28.68] I think he does, too. There are different different rooms of thought on all this different camps, and I want to kind of cover a couple of these just at a high level, just to kind of put everyone on the same platform where we’re starting. There are some people that believe that God no longer speaks. Hmm. I was actually speaking to a pastor a few years back. One of the topics that actually the very first set of topics on our radical faith, if you go back into the history, you’ll see them is called What is Faith and Getting Out of the boat. And these are the foundational understanding of what faith is. How do you really walk by faith? And throughout that topic, I would keep talking about when God speaks to you and gives you a word, you act on it. So one of the pastors I was speaking to was counseling me and saying, Beatty, you can’t hear God. Now, this was I was hearing God all the time. I was hearing the Lord speak, speaking in his small, still quiet voice. And it was a guiding light, a little comfort to me. But he convinced me. He didn’t convince me. But I respected his position as pastor. He wasn’t my personal pastor, but I respect that and respected that role as pastor. And he’s gone through seminary. He’s had a lot more training.
Beatty: [00:03:53.97] He’s read a lot more books. So I submitted to his what I thought was his authority. And he actually gave me a CD by a very well-known pastor here in the United States. If I were to mention his name, a lot of people would recognize his name. I won’t mention it for obvious reasons because of what I’m about to say. He’s he claims that you cannot hear God, that God no longer speaks, that there’s no way to know his will for your life except what’s explicitly clear in the Bible, because all revelation has ceased, according to him, according to this other person that this other pastor. And he makes the statement. So if you’re trying to decide, do I marry one person or another, there’s no way for you to know God’s will. If you have two job offers, one in one city and one another, there’s no way to know God’s will. You just do whatever you think is best and you look backwards. And this was his exact comment. The only way to know God’s will is you look backwards. And whatever happened yesterday was God’s will. Now, you and I did a topic a little while back called When Bad Things Happen, Is it God’s Will? Yeah, we kind of pull that onion back and realize not everything that happened is God’s will. Do you remember that topic?
Penny: [00:05:17.71] I do, yes.
Beatty: [00:05:19.36] So during this time when this pastor was telling me this, I went into a tailspin spiritually because I said, oh, well, everything I’m hearing must not be real. And I absolutely lost my compass. It was the most depressing time of my life. Because imagine living your life. And you had no way of knowing if the decisions you were making were the right decisions or not, and they were major decisions either in relationships, money in business, significant things that could have long term impact. And you had absolutely no clue if you’re going to make the right decision. Can you imagine the level of anxiety that brings into your life?
Penny: [00:06:07.66] Had to have been so heavy.
Beatty: [00:06:10.18] It was really heavy. It was the darkest time in my life that I recall. And I’m now 54. You’re 55 years old. Then I regained it, OK? And I had to tell you the story. And this is kind of off the subject, but back on the subject. But it took me several years and I finally said, Lord, I need to know if I can hear you or not. So I took a what I call a day of prayer. I went out. And spent the whole day with the Lord and I said, Lord, can I hear your word? And I remember going out all day and this tune step coming into my mind is the only thing I could think of. You know, o lord, o Lord, how majestic is your name and all of the earth? Yes. And I now now remember thinking to myself. Why am I singing this, I never sing that tune, never, but it just stuck in my head and then I started making a list of all of the things that I felt the Lord had directed me on and how they all came true. And they’re all things that I believe the Lord spoke to me and giving me the answer. And then I said, Lord, show me one other thing. I’m just going to open up your word. I’m just going to open up the Bible and just show me something I open. And I think it’s Psalm eight. And you know what Psalm eight begins with?
Penny: [00:07:34.55] I do not.
Beatty: [00:07:35.78] O Lord. O Lord, how majestic there. Wow. And I regain my compass, OK? I realize that my pastor friend was completely wrong. Yeah. And I’ve not had a dark day since. OK, ultimately. So the question is, what does God what does the Bible say about God speaking to us and how does how do you do this. And, and if he does actually speak, which you and I both believe that he does, how do you hear his word? I remember talking to my wife about this. We’re going through some things with one of our sons, not bad, but just kind of anxiety ridden if you’re not careful. Mm hmm. And so we just need to pray about it. She says, my wife says, you know, I pray and God speaks to me by just giving me a nudge in my heart or a tug on my heart. Mm hmm. And I said, yeah, but God speaks to me in sentences. I actually can take dictation. A lot of times it would go. How do you do that? OK. And so I want to kind of start to peel back. How do you hear guys so clearly that you actually know word for word? Because I know with you you have a ministry where you actually you actually I think it’s, if I’m correct, a prophetic ministry at times where you’re actually speaking. What you what you hear something the Lord directing you to speak to someone. Am I correct on that?
Penny: [00:09:06.36] Yes. Yes, absolutely.
Beatty: [00:09:08.91] So with that, I’d like to go into God’s word and look at a couple of scriptures. OK, sounds good. So while this isn’t going to be heavy on scripture, we are going to bring the foundation of it there. So let’s turn to Jeremiah. Thirty three, three. And right now we’ll do all of these in ESV.
Penny: [00:09:30.03] Ok. All right, Jeremiah. Thirty three, verse three says call to me and I will answer you and I will tell you great and hidden things that you have not known.
Beatty: [00:09:46.29] Oh, OK. So let’s set the stage on this. This is Old Testament. This is during the nation of Israel. Did God’s spirit in dwell and his people of Israel or does he only dwell in us who are born again?
Penny: [00:10:06.99] His spirit was there,
Beatty: [00:10:09.06] His spirit was there, but did it in dwell in them individually, do
Penny: [00:10:13.90] You not? No, not not prior to
Beatty: [00:10:16.26] Christ, yeah, not prior to Christ. It’s only with Christ that his spirit unites with our spirit once we repent and believe. Does that make sense?
Penny: [00:10:24.61] Yes.
Beatty: [00:10:25.62] So back in the Old Testament days, they would have the Yoram and Thurman, Yoram and Thoman or something like crazy names, but is basically a way of hearing God. And it’s almost like a couple of dies for lack of a better description. Sometimes, you know, God would speak to the prophets. But here is a statement through the prophet Jeremiah that says basically it’s almost an open ended statement. Call to me and I will answer you. And this is in the time when his spirit did not dwell in us, but here’s a question I have to ask you. If he promised to answer them when they call and tell them hidden things that they did not know, would God have had to have spoken to them to give them that information?
Penny: [00:11:17.69] Yes, he has yet to speak to someone, he
Beatty: [00:11:20.75] Had to speak to someone, yeah, in some way and communicate to them. OK, so here we have even in the Old Testament. This going on now, some of the some of our friends will say, well, yes, but that’s all in the Bible revelation has ceased. So let’s we’ll keep going. OK, Psalm 81 10. Let’s read that, OK.
Penny: [00:11:45.82] Let’s say some 81, verse 10 says, I am the Lord, your God who brought you up out of the land of Egypt, open your mouth wide and I will fill it
Beatty: [00:12:01.29] O open your mouth wide and he’ll fill it with food. Or do you think it’s open your mouth wide and I will fill it with my words.
Penny: [00:12:09.19] I think it’s with his words.
Beatty: [00:12:11.08] Yeah, that’s the way I read it as well. So here God is promising his people that if you open your mouth wide, I will fill it. Now, let me ask you. That’s God’s word, ever expire? No, to his promises ever go away?
Penny: [00:12:28.65] No.
Beatty: [00:12:29.76] Does anything, any job or tittle of the law, has testimonies ever become abolished?
Penny: [00:12:36.66] No.
Beatty: [00:12:39.72] So how can we state that revelation has ceased without saying these scriptures are no longer valid? Does that make sense?
Penny: [00:12:50.64] It does, and I don’t think that we can say that.
Beatty: [00:12:53.16] I don’t think we can either. But for those who who are thinking you can’t hear God speak because revelation has ceased, it’s only now what’s contained in the Bible, which some of our conservative friends believe. That’s what I was taught by that pastor. I think they’re I think it’s wrong. OK, and my experience, and I know your experience proves it wrong, but I want to just look at the Bible and just kind of ask these questions and say, does that really sound right? Let’s look at another one. Let’s look at First Corinthians three, 16.
Penny: [00:13:30.85] Ok. All right, let’s say first Corinthians, chapter three, verse 16, do you not know that you are God’s temple and that God’s spirit dwells in you
Beatty: [00:13:47.77] So you are God’s temple and God’s spirit dwells in you? So this is reminiscent of the Temple of the Tabernacle with Moses and the temple with Solomon. Mm hmm. When God spoke. To the nation of Israel, either during Moses this time and during David and Solomon’s time, from which location did he typically speak?
Penny: [00:14:14.95] Did which location did God typically speak?
Beatty: [00:14:17.71] Yeah, from which location?
Penny: [00:14:19.39] From heaven.
Beatty: [00:14:20.53] From Heaven. But when men like when Moses went to meet with God and God would speak to him, where did Moses go?
Penny: [00:14:28.96] To the top of the mountain?
Beatty: [00:14:30.46] Well, he went to the top of the mountain once or twice. But once their tabernacle was built, he went into the tabernacle. You remember the spirit would raise that would come down and reside on top of the most holy place, and the Lord would speak to him face to face and the tabernacle. Do you recall that?
Penny: [00:14:48.49] Yes, I do. OK.
Beatty: [00:14:51.79] When the high priests ministers before God, it’s in their tabernacle. At or in the temple, once the temple was built, when Solomon built his temple, the spirit of God filled the temple so much that the priest could even go in there. And that was always the place. If you want to see God, you go to the temple because that’s where God dwelled. OK, so does it make sense that God speaks from where he dwells?
Penny: [00:15:22.35] Absolutely.
Beatty: [00:15:23.73] So if he dwells in us because we are now his temple. Then would it make sense that God is not moot? He’s not gagged, and therefore when he speaks, it’s going to be speaking within us?
Penny: [00:15:39.37] Yes, absolutely.
Beatty: [00:15:41.11] And then let’s look at another passage, John, 16, 13 says you’re turning there. Let me just give you the reference on this, because I think it’s important. So Jesus has just finished having the Last Supper with his disciples, not just the 12 apostles. All of the disciples that were following him were there at the Last Supper. Then he leaves the upper room of the Last Supper and he goes out to, I believe, is the Garden of Gethsemani. And this is where he begins to pray. But before he’s praying, he tells the parable of the vineyard. My father, the vine dresser, I am the vine. That’s John whiffing. And then he’s continuing to teach his apostles and his disciples into John’s 16. As you read through all of John, 14, 15, 16, everything is fully applicable and fully taught to all of all disciples. This is not something specific to just the the apostles, the 12th or in this case now the 11. So as we read this, I want you to understand the reference of this is to his disciples, not just to the chosen 11 who were left after Judas went to betray him. So, John, 16, 13,
Penny: [00:17:03.91] Ok, when this spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority. But whatever he hears, he will speak and he will declare to you the things that are to come.
Beatty: [00:17:21.84] Who speaks
Penny: [00:17:23.46] The spirit?
Beatty: [00:17:25.19] And if he speaks, who is he speaking to?
Penny: [00:17:28.75] You, me?
Beatty: [00:17:29.98] Yeah, does this so is a Holy Spirit quenched now that the Bible has been formalized into a single book? No, no. He’s teaching his disciples, hey, I’m going to put my spirit. My spirit is going to speak what he’s been told and he’s going to speak it to you and tell you things that are to come, things there to come are things that we don’t know of. When we can when we learn to hear God speak to us, our life becomes so much more at peace because we know we’re no longer in control. Have you ever been on a trip? Maybe you and the kids, you’re the you’re the one responsible for everything on that trip, OK, and the car breaks down or something goes awry and now you’ve got to handle it. I don’t know if you have, but have you ever been in a situation where the responsibility is all up to you?
Penny: [00:18:26.20] Yes, I have.
Beatty: [00:18:27.64] Ok, I hear this little it probably wasn’t an exciting experience and is.
Penny: [00:18:36.13] Ok.
Beatty: [00:18:37.21] Have you ever been on another trip when someone else was responsible and something went wrong and you weren’t worried at all?
Penny: [00:18:44.51] Yes.
Beatty: [00:18:45.52] What’s the difference?
Penny: [00:18:49.27] The weight of it did not fall on me.
Beatty: [00:18:51.76] Oh, it was someone else who had to make all the decisions. You didn’t have to worry about it.
Penny: [00:18:57.13] Mm hmm.
Beatty: [00:18:58.24] This is life. When you can hear God speak to you all the way to those decisions, you have to be you have to make are on someone else’s shoulders. They’re not yours. And because you don’t have to carry that weight, the weight of a man making a wrong decision or not, then all of the anxiety that you had in that first exam, first scenario that you were remembering is totally gone in that second scenario. I remember we were on a trip to Israel with our pastor. And we had three busses, 150 people, maybe four, and it was the largest group he’d ever had there, and things kept getting backed up. The you know, when you’re dealing with that many people, it just goes slow. And I remember watching him, he is all stressed out, working into the late hours of night, planning the next day because the schedule keeps getting backed up and messed up. And I was there and I didn’t have a worry in the world because it wasn’t my responsibility. Mm hmm. When we can hear God speak to us and we can seek him for the decisions we need to make, then it’s no longer our responsibility. Had to worry about it. And life all of a sudden becomes full of peace, becomes joyful, and we can go through life and not live in anxiety. And this is where I was talking about the first of this call.
Beatty: [00:20:22.49] My world went dark when I felt I could not hear God speak to me. And my heart goes out to our brothers and sisters in Christ who have never fully understood how to hear God speak, and especially when they go through a traumatic experience like the death of a loved one. Mm hmm. And now death, a loved one. You know, guys kind of in control and and you can make it through if you know the Lord much easier than if you’re a nonbeliever. But just a day to day trials, knowing what should I do, being able to hear the Lord clearly speak is so important. And that’s why I really wanted to touch on this topic. So I want to share just some observations from personal experience on this and how God speaks. OK, sometimes God speaks through his word, let me change that. God speaks all the time through his word. OK, but a lot of times, as we’re reading his word, a sentence or a word or an entire passage just kind of gets what I call highlighted. It just kind of stands out. As you’re reading this passage, your heart is just gravitated toward this one verse, the sentence or something. And, you know, the Lord is communicating something directly to you. Have you ever experienced that?
Penny: [00:21:49.63] Yes.
Beatty: [00:21:51.20] Does it happen often?
Penny: [00:21:55.38] It happens as often as I am engaging with the Lord makes sense.
Beatty: [00:22:02.79] That makes perfect sense. That’s we’re going to we’re going to talk on that in a little bit, engaging with the Lord. How would you define engaging with the Lord that simply because you’re sitting down reading the Bible or is engaging with the Lord something more?
Penny: [00:22:18.60] For me, it’s something more. I usually always start with worship and praise and just really thanking him for who he is and for his son, sort of setting the tone, I think. And then I spend time in the world, but I also spend a lot of time listening. It’s easy to kind of for me, it’s easy to worship and read the word or read a book, even like a Christian book, you know, something that’s going to be like helping my Christian walk. But if I’m not actually disciplining myself to be still and listen, then I will miss what he’s saying.
Beatty: [00:23:01.69] You know, that is really true. I had a. Quote that was shared recently by a guy named Dorson Trotman. Anderson is the founder of what’s called Navigator’s, and I want to see if I can pull that quote up real quickly and if I can’t, then I will just abandon it. I don’t see it real quickly, but it was basically saying that. Listening is not learning. Simply to listen with your ears, but not with your heart, you’re not really engaging, and I think that’s kind of what you’re talking about. But I think most of us listening to this probably have had those experiences when something’s highlighted off the page. Let me encourage you if something gets highlighted.
Penny: [00:23:55.67] Yes.
Beatty: [00:23:57.55] If the Lord were to speak directly to you, is that important enough that you probably ought to write it down?
Penny: [00:24:03.22] Yes, for sure.
Beatty: [00:24:05.02] So if something gets highlighted to you, write it down. Yeah. And keep referring to it. I had an interesting experience happen to me that just really kind of floored me. I was reading back through the word. In different translations in this passage just kind of popped out on me and I thought, oh wow, I was in a different translation, I didn’t really recognize it. And then I went back to my normal translation. I said, oh, this is the same thing that the Lord highlighted about 12 years ago to me. And I was thinking once highlighted, always highlighted. It’s always God’s word. So one way that God speaks is through highlighting these passages as you read, but you have to be engaged. I think that’s a perfect, perfect way to describe it. Another way God speaks to us that I’ve learned is he speaks in our spirit. And it comes out like what my wife was saying, I feel a tug in my heart or I feel just kind of this the sense in my heart of maybe what the answer is. In other words, we can’t quite define it. We just know its presence is there. And it’s we kind of get an idea of which direction is leading us, but it’s still not very specific. It’s it’s more nebulous. Does that make sense? What I’m trying to describe?
Penny: [00:25:25.36] Absolutely. I think for a lot of people, the best way to kind of explain that is it would be similar to saying, like, I just have this feeling deep down in my gut, like deep in my gut. I feel like I’m supposed to go this way or make this decision or be with this person.
Beatty: [00:25:44.90] Very true, and I think we all have experienced that and deep down in our gut. Oftentimes, that is the lord speaking. Yeah, all right, so here’s a question if the Lord is speaking. And even my and please, I don’t. I want to make sure this doesn’t come across the wrong way. I’m not I’m not trying to beat down my brothers, the church. I you know, the church body that I’m involved with as well, where many of them believe that God has ceased all revelation that God never speaks, because we all have experienced when his word is highlighted. But that’s coming straight from the word. So we get that God isn’t adding any new revelation. He’s just highlighting his existing revelation. But yet all of us have experienced that gut feeling, that tugging on our heart. Well, that is God speaking. Mm hmm. None of us denies that. So we can’t deny that God we can’t say that God no longer speaks. I think what we’re trying to say maybe is God no longer speaks in clear, audible words that we can discern. You know, if I really boil it down to to those who believe that revelation has ceased, then what they’re really saying is there is no new, clearly spoken verbal words that are black and white clear because we all know that there’s a note in our heart. Does that make sense?
Penny: [00:27:17.78] Yes, it does.
Beatty: [00:27:19.05] Ok, but here’s something interesting. When God speaks in our spirit, that’s still God speaking. If you take our mother tongue, so you and I, we speak we speak God’s version of English Southern English, right. And so when we speak, we can understand each other. But if we were to go over to Russia and they were speaking in Russian, would we be able to understand them? No, no. When God speaks through our heart, speaks into our spirit. He speaks it with a different language, it’s almost a spiritual language some people believe in speaking in tongues and in speaking in tongues. There are two types of tongues that people typically claim. One is another language that other people know. But it is foreign to me, OK? And other times is what they’ll call their prayer language, which is actually a spiritual language that is not in any given language on the earth, but as a unique language. Does that make sense? What I’m what I’m talking about?
Penny: [00:28:24.35] Yes, it does.
Beatty: [00:28:25.31] Ok, so that speaking in tongues. Is a different language, and I believe that our spirit has a different language than our mother tongue, than the tongue in cheek, there’s a different language. So when God speaks to our spirit, he’s speaking to us. It’s just that we’re not we’re not interprete. We’re not translating it completely. And therefore, our heart translated. Our heart knows what to do. But it’s not really connecting into our brain. And in great clarity is just that that gut feeling, that instinctive ness. This is what we need to be doing. Is this OK?
Penny: [00:29:01.38] Falling all right. Yeah.
Beatty: [00:29:02.70] Yeah. But what if you could translate? The words that God is speaking to your spirit, into the words that your mind can understand, is that a different form of speaking or is that still the same speaking?
Penny: [00:29:21.12] I think it’s still the same speaking,
Beatty: [00:29:23.32] Yeah, that’s still the same speaking, it’s just that now we’re translating it. And when we translate it now, we have greater clarity of exactly what God is directing. It’s not just that nudge or that gut feeling in our heart, but now it becomes more specific. And I think this is it starts to see the pattern of how most people grow in hearing the Lord speak first. You know, they probably get highlights in the Bible simultaneously or second or before that. You know, I’m not sure the sequence is that gut feeling, but the more that you read the word, the more that you engage with the Lord, the more that you spend time in worship and prayer, the more you become sensitive to his leading and the more your heart becomes sensitive to recognizing. What’s the right thing to do or the wrong thing and then a layer up from that is starting to learn to translate the what God is speaking to your heart and now being able to translate where you can actually decipher and discern it with your mind. It’s all God’s speaking, God’s God doesn’t change is the same yesterday, today and forever. His words and his testimonies are the same. It’s just that in the level of spiritual growth, we can start to understand more of what he’s doing. Yeah, that’s making sense. OK, yes, so it’s up to us to discern that, and then sometimes God actually speaks audibly. I’ve heard people share that. They have heard God speak to them. Have you ever heard God actually audibly speak to you?
Penny: [00:31:06.41] Not audibly with my own ears, like I’m talking to you right now. OK, but I have heard him speak words to my spirit, if that makes sense.
Beatty: [00:31:16.33] Yeah, totally makes sense. We’re going to talk about how do you hear God speaking to your spirit? That’s where we’re moving in this entire conversation to help people take that spiritual growth from just highlighting a word, just feeling a nudge to actually interpreting and translating it and speaking to your spirit. Let me ask you on speaking to your spirit, do you hear clearly enough at times that you could actually take dictation from it?
Penny: [00:31:43.09] I do, yes. Sometimes I don’t. But I do. There’s many times that I do. It really depends. I feel like on just, you know, the environment. What am I engaging with the Lord about images worshiping or am I actually seeking him for an answer? I think it just depends on sort of the situation.
Beatty: [00:32:05.02] I agree that that’s what I’ve experienced myself. And let me ask you one other question on that. When you hear him clearly enough to take dictation. And other times that you don’t. Are you able to discern clearly that this is actually God speaking and not just you having these thoughts that you think I mean, if you discern his voice that clearly
Penny: [00:32:28.91] I have, OK,
Beatty: [00:32:31.22] So I want to share it. So I’ve only heard the Lord speak audibly to me one time. This was 20 years ago. I had just been given a. I don’t know if it was a prophecy or a comment someone made that I internalized it and said, wouldn’t that be great? And I knew that the Lord was speaking to me about this topic. And I was asking him, are you really going to do this? This is something really, really exciting for me, if this was really true. And I was out at a park. In the middle of the day. Everyone was at work, there was no kids out there, and I was talking and talking with the Lord about this, and I heard so clearly the desires of your heart. I actually turned around expecting to see someone right behind me. It was that clear audibly in my ears. There was no one there. That’s the only time, only time in 55 years. OK, so he doesn’t speak audibly often, but he can. And he does. Yes. Today’s call is not how to hear audibly, but how to hear in our spirit. So with that, I want to walk you through kind of what’s happened with me in getting to this point. And if there is a pattern that is similar to you or even different, I would love to hear that so I can our listeners can understand. But 1998, I just started my business of I started my business in 97 and probably six months later, 1998. I’m talking to a friend of mine. He’s in full time Christian ministry. And he was sharing this concept to me, call a day of prayer.
Beatty: [00:34:21.74] And I instantly fell in love with it. A day of prayer is you take one day a month and you spend the whole day with the Lord. It’s just you and the Lord. It’s a day that’s holy to the Lord, set apart to the Lord. So I decided I was going to do that. And I decided to do it on a workday because I was going to trust the Lord with my business, I was going to honor him first with the first of the most important things in my life and of a day of work day to try to earn a living is very important. So I gave that to him. I said, Lord. You’re big enough to watch over my business. I want to take a day off and I want to spend with you. Hmm. Now, as I teach share this, I’m really kind of teaching and hoping that some of our listeners will hear this and say, I want to do the same thing that day. Our prayers turn into be the most significant part of anything I’ve done in my business life since 1998. And and I’m not saying this bragging. I have never missed a month. It is so important to me I have never missed a month that I have not taken that day of prayer. Now sometimes I finish early and I’ll get back to doing some work at the end of the day. But the whole day is set aside for the Lord until I feel my spirit. OK, whatever needs be accomplished has been accomplished. And I remember on these days of prayer, I would be building up a list of questions for the Lord.
Beatty: [00:36:00.27] Imagine if you had a meeting with the Lord once a month and you could ask him anything and he would tell you the answer is what you should be doing. Then you would probably be making a list of questions to ask him because you knew that you were going to get answers to it and those answers would help you. OK, so that’s the way I handle this day of prayer. And I would go on the day of prayer and I would start really early before sun, before sunrise usually, and I would just spend time with the Lord. So the general format is this. Assuming the Lord read a Christian book, spend time in prayer, I would my format as I walk and talk, I’d go to where a member of a country club. So I just got on the golf course and just walk and talk with the Lord, sing praises. I would stop, I’d study if I was really tired, I’d go, you know, take a nap. I mean, it was whatever I felt like doing, but everything was focused towards the Lord. And I found that it would take me usually two, three or four hours. So just kind of being in God’s presence before I felt like I could open up my questions and start to ask questions. And during this time, I learned that it was easier to discern a yes or no response than an open it. And now, Lord, I’m going through this problem. What should I do? That’s an open ended question.
Penny: [00:37:28.37] Yeah.
Beatty: [00:37:29.06] So I would say, Lord, should I do this yes or no? OK, now I could kind of discern in my spirit a yes or no little baby steps and not all my questions, but enough that it became a significant thing. And then the Lord started to direct me to fast. I never really fasted. So I would fast by skipping breakfast and eating lunch after I finished my day of prayer. And that usually made my day prayers a lot shorter because the restaurant flooded, it closed at 2:00. OK, so, you know, and I start to get really hungry. And I remember I would even carry a pack of peanut butter crackers because sometimes I would just get real jittery and I just had to have something to eat. But for the most part, I try to fast and I did not realize it. But over time, while fasting during my day of prayer, I actually had clearer answers and then fast for 20 years later, or maybe a little bit more. Just a few a couple of years ago, I led a homeless man to Christ, he hopped on a bus, went away somewhere.
Beatty: [00:38:40.60] We gave a bus ticket, brought him back. He was all demonized. And I was going to do a deliverance ministry with him. So I was really concerned about this. This one this guy was really horribly what I call infested with demons. So I fasted for six days. And everything worked out on the deliverance, but I remember a week later, I went before the Lord just on a normal quiet time and I had some questions and it was like, wow. As soon as I sat down with the questions, I heard the Lord clearly full sentences, complete sentences, like I never heard him before. And I was asking him what happened. How why do I hear you so clearly right now and without any real significant time in preparing to hear you? He said it was a six days fast. And I started to learn fast and. Is a critical, critical step to hearing the Lord speak, so do you have any experiences or anything that you can share on your journey with hearing the Lord?
Penny: [00:39:49.77] I do. I feel like for me it kind of started with it is definitely baby steps, but I kind of have always viewed it as like a spouse. The more I spend time with my husband, the more I talk to him, the more I hear his voice, the more I know what his character is. And, you know, the longer you live with someone you’re married to, someone you kind of know how they’re going to respond to things. You know what they’re going to say. You can finish each other’s sentences, that kind of thing. Right, because you know them so well, because you spend time with them and you’re intentional about spending time with them and getting to know them. And I feel like my journey with hearing the Lord has been the same way. The more time I spend with the Lord and the more I read his word, I think that is key. A lot of people think that they can just become a believer and immediately start hearing the Lord. While that may be true for most people, it’s not. And for most people I would always encourage them. Are you actually reading the Bible like because that’s how you get to know God, that’s how you get to know who he is. The book was written about him. So everything that’s in it is things that teach us about God, his character, his nature, the way he handles things, I mean everything about it. And so I feel like the word is a huge component of hearing from the Lord. And then the more you get to know him through his word, when you do spend time with him those first few times you hear those nudges in your heart, those polls you start to recognize.
Penny: [00:41:35.61] That’s the Lord speaking to me. And like you said with the verse that gets highlighted, I might open. Let’s just say I decide to read some twenty five and there’s one verse in there and I’m just like, oh, this. First he sticks out to me. Something about this verse is just really sticking out. Well, that’s the Lord. He’s wanting to talk to you using that verse. And so I think for me in my journey it’s always been. The more I know the Lord and his nature and his character, the easier it is for me to hear him. Whereas if I choose to sort of, oh, I got this on my own, I don’t really need to be studying the word, you know, I can go to church on Sunday. I’m cool. That’s almost the times when he becomes quiet or he’s not quiet. It’s just that I have not been intentional, intentional about spending time with him and listening for him. He always has something to say. That’s something my husband and I always tell our kids. Even we’re like God always has something to say, but are you listening? Just like his parents? We might always have something to say to our kids, but are they listening? Mm hmm. Yeah. You know, I mean, it’s silly. We can chuckle about it, but it’s true. I just feel like the Lord always has something to say. But so much of the time we’re too busy to stop and listen.
Beatty: [00:42:57.65] You know, that’s so true. There are three things I pull out of what you’re saying. Earlier, you were talking about engaging with the Lord. Here, you’re also now using the word intentional with the Lord. And the third thing is a study of God’s word, because that’s who he is. That’s how you get to know him. You get to know his heart. He often talks through the word frequently. He brings the word up in your spirit to give you an answer of what you need to know.
Penny: [00:43:33.03] Yes, that’s right.
Beatty: [00:43:34.53] And I love what you say. I was talking to someone else. And she was saying she she didn’t she didn’t know how to hear the Lord. And she had trouble and she was, you know, how can you say you hear the Lord? I never hear him. Well, this person also has never read the Bible cover to cover. She loves the Lord, she worships the Lord. But she’s never read his word. I mean, it’s like you having a long distance relationship with Brian, your husband, before you got married, and you never really spend time with them. You may love him, but you really don’t know him. And if he were to call your name in a crowd, you’re in a crowded area and he would be talking but not call your name, but just talking. If you really didn’t know him, you wouldn’t even be able to discern his own voice even though you loved him.
Penny: [00:44:33.33] Yeah, that’s right.
Beatty: [00:44:34.71] I want to take you back, because this is this is a perfect example of hearing God’s voice. I remember I was teaching my radical faith on how to hear God. And this was in a church setting in a Sunday school class, and I remember a guy asked the question. How can you be so certain that you hear God all the time? Because I never do.
Penny: [00:45:02.47] Mm.
Beatty: [00:45:04.99] And I want to share an example, you use the example of knowing your husband and being able to even complete a sentence, but for especially the women out there and some of the guys, I want to use a different example that I think is even clearer. I want to take you back before you had children and you’re in a room with some of your lady friends who have small babies and there may be 10 or 15 babies there. And you’re visiting with the moms. And one of the baby cries out, another one laughs and giggles. Would you be able just from hearing that in the background of the noise going on, could you discern which baby was which that was crying or giggling or who that baby belonged to?
Penny: [00:45:52.60] You know,
Beatty: [00:45:54.37] Now you have your own baby and you’re back in that same room and your baby is one of those babies laughing and giggling and stuff. And then all of a sudden your baby cries out. Can you discern that voice is your baby? Absolutely. What’s the difference?
Penny: [00:46:13.46] Spending time with the child. Yeah, lives with me and I am intentional about learning who my child is and listening to them and spending time with them,
Beatty: [00:46:26.66] Hearing your child’s voice is the same thing as hearing God’s voice. Yeah. When you know your child so intimately, you recognize his voice or her voice. When you know the Lord so intimately, you recognize his voice as well. Yes, that’s really the key. OK, yeah, yeah. But he is always speaking. You mentioned that you teach your children, you know, God always has something to say. So I want to back that up in scripture. So let’s look at two scriptures. I want you to do these in the living Bible. OK, so the first one is Psalm 139, one through four.
Penny: [00:47:10.53] All right. Let’s see and let’s see if I can find a living Bible real quick. OK, I’m having a hard time finding the living Bible.
Beatty: [00:47:30.07] Ok, well, then just do like NIV does or or something.
Penny: [00:47:33.35] That’s OK. OK, and it was some one thirty nine verse
Beatty: [00:47:38.74] One, two, three and four. OK.
Penny: [00:47:44.65] Yeah, I’m not quite sure why the living bible was not popping up. We’ll have to it must be a user error. OK, it’s on one thirty nine, one, two, three and four. You have searched me, Lord, and you know me. You know, when I sit and when I rise, you perceive my thoughts from afar. You discern my going out in my lying down. You are familiar with all my ways before a word is on my tongue. You Lord know it completely.
Beatty: [00:48:20.21] Does that take you all the way through for.
Penny: [00:48:22.22] Yes, that was kind of for you to keep going.
Beatty: [00:48:26.06] No, let me read, because this is for a living Bible, kind of translated slightly different. But first, let me ask you a question. Based on what you just read, is God intimately involved with each one of us and our individual lives?
Penny: [00:48:42.17] Absolutely.
Beatty: [00:48:43.37] Yeah. He knows everything about us, but more than knows everything about us. Let me read how the living Bible writes it just once. Part of it says you chart the path ahead in the. And tell me where to stop and rest. Uh. Constantly directing, constantly communicating. Let’s go to Psalm 32 verse, say, I want to show you one other one.
Penny: [00:49:09.96] Ok. All right, some 30 to verse eight. Says, I will instruct you and teach you in the way that you should go. I will counsel you with my loving eye on you.
Beatty: [00:49:32.15] Hmm, so he’s gone instructors and teachers in the way we should go. But how does he do that if he doesn’t speak to us, to teach us?
Penny: [00:49:45.89] He does speak to us, right.
Beatty: [00:49:47.61] Ok, but so so he speaks. But here’s also the other other interesting thing. It’s all the time, everything. If you go back to
Penny: [00:49:57.98] Our topic, that’s a good point, Beatty, because it doesn’t say I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go today or I will instruct you in the way you should go tomorrow. It doesn’t give a time frame. It’s open ended.
Beatty: [00:50:11.85] It’s open ended. And when we go back to what we studied and when bad things happen, is it God’s will? The very first session was all about God is constantly directing every single step that we take. But when we ignore what he’s directing us on, that’s when we fall.
Penny: [00:50:32.70] Yes.
Beatty: [00:50:33.33] Ok, so God speaks to our spirit, not to our flesh, not to our body. Romans eight talks about the mind set on the spirit is life, but the mind set on the flesh is death. Do you remember that passage? I did. OK, so to hear the Lord speak and to discern his words, you have to have your mind set in the spirit, not in your flesh mode. This is where you’re talking about. You have to be engaging with the Lord. You don’t just necessarily hear the Lord speak unless you’re engaging. Now, for those who are you don’t have a lifestyle of constantly and all the time engaging with the Lord, you know, this is what happened with me, my days of prayer years back, I would have to really deliberately and intentionally engage before I could hear.
Penny: [00:51:32.49] Mm hmm.
Beatty: [00:51:33.33] Well, today. Because of a lifestyle consistent engagement, I hear a lot quickly, a lot quicker, I hear more completely. And so it’s not a light switch that you turn on and off, but it’s a lifestyle. But we hear in the spirit, we don’t hear in the physical. The other thing that I find is that whole idea of engaging or being intentional. To a degree, this is what Paul talks about, renewing your mind in Christ the more Christlike you become. The more you are able to discern his voice in your life, does that is that does that resonate make sense?
Penny: [00:52:15.73] Yes, it does, yeah.
Beatty: [00:52:17.44] All right. How do you renew your mind?
Penny: [00:52:22.49] By spending time in the word,
Beatty: [00:52:24.41] Yeah, spending time with the word, I’m going to suggest that. It starts with that commitment to really pursue the Lord, you know, when I say a commitment, that’s what you’re talking about, intentional this is intentional, committed act that says the Lord is as important and more important than my spouse. And I will pursue the Lord the same way I pursue my spouse, even in the dating relationship. OK, and and you’re going to see the evidence of that commitment by what happens with your actions. You’re going to desire to constantly spend time every day with the Lord. He says, you know, pursue me and I will let you find me OK? Yeah, you’ll see a consistent time of worship and prayer, just like what you’re talking about. You’ll see an earnest and eager desire to serve him. And please him in all things.
Penny: [00:53:30.24] Mm hmm.
Beatty: [00:53:31.05] You’ll see a disaster and a hunger in your heart to always obey him, and especially in the little things, the things that people don’t see. You know, the easy little thing to cheat on is taxes, expense accounts, things that well, it’s my word against who else I have a friend had is probably a better word. And he was telling me he always writes everything in his calendar, in paper. This is before digital calendars. He writes everything in his calendar in pencil, because that way you can go back and change it.
Penny: [00:54:08.70] Hmm.
Beatty: [00:54:09.93] Ok, who’s to say that it wasn’t what was written? Only him. OK, so some little things just being honest and the little things and obeying the law and the little things. But I remember George Mueller as we’re talking about. Oh, there’s one other thing I think that’s really important and renewing your mind. And that’s this whole element of fasting. We’re going to cover fasting on the next session because we don’t have time to cover it here. But fasting, we’ll just hold that off, because I would say that outside of a lifestyle of being committed to the Lord. Fasting is the second single most important thing you can ever do if you want to clearly hear the Lord’s. Now, I’ve never spoken to you about fasting, so I really don’t know your life as it relates to fasting.
Penny: [00:55:06.63] Mm hmm.
Beatty: [00:55:08.25] And I want to instead go out on a limb and I’m going to make a prediction and just say, if I want to say if I’m right, do you have a lifestyle of some form of consistent fasting?
Penny: [00:55:24.23] I do, yes.
Beatty: [00:55:26.45] Can you share what that lifestyle might be, if you don’t mind?
Penny: [00:55:31.22] I wouldn’t say that it’s I wouldn’t say that we’re as structured with it as maybe you are, but we absolutely and especially in times of weather, whether it’s sending a child to college or we have a big decision that’s coming up or, you know, we’re kind of at a crossroads with our career or, you know, should we purchase this vehicle or whatever. We tend to always spend some time in prayer and fasting leading up to making a decision, because we know that in the moments where there are big decisions that need to be made, I don’t want to make a decision based on the world or based on what my finite human mind can come up with. I want a decision based on what the Lord wants me to do. So fasting gets rid of everything in the natural and enforces me. And I hate to say the word force because that sounds kind of like dominating, but that’s it encourages me. Maybe that’s a better way to say. It encourages me to really focus on the Lord and sort of separate myself from the natural and really focus on God.
Beatty: [00:56:54.89] Well, so you’re hitting really accurately, but there’s a lot more to it. I think you’re I think I’ll blow your mind when we get into our next session on fasting, but it really does. But here’s the bottom line. Fasting moves you from the flesh to the spirit. Yes, and in the spirit is where you hear the Lord. In the spirit is where you have greater ability to execute your authority in Christ, this is where I believe Jesus says about casting out the demon of the epileptic boy. He said, this kind cannot come out by anything except prayer and fasting, not a one time prayer and fast, but a lifestyle of prayer and fasting that moves you and keeps you in that spirit realm. So we’ll talk about that. I want to cover last couple of thoughts as we talk about hearing God speak. OK. One of the things that’s really difficult is. Discerning his voice because there are lots of voices that go on in our mind. You have a spirit and a soul and you hear your voice, those are your thoughts. God has a spirit. And he speaks also in that same room, because I don’t know if you know this, do you think in your thoughts or in the spiritual realm? Mm hmm. Our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against principalities in the spiritual places. And our battle is in our thoughts, life
Penny: [00:58:37.14] And the words, as the word says, that if you are a believer, if you’ve accepted Christ as your savior, the word says that you have the mind of Christ.
Beatty: [00:58:45.63] That’s right. So our thoughts are in the spirit realm. Our thinking is in the spirit realm. We hear our spirit in the spirit realm. God’s spirit speaks to us in the spirit realm. And there’s one other types of voices that we hear. Do you know what those voices are?
Penny: [00:59:08.11] I’m going to let you answer that, but
Beatty: [00:59:10.79] We actually talked about it when when we did a topic called Legal Rights and How to have victory over the enemy. And you mentioned one of your ministries is helping people get rid of the lying voices. Yeah, OK, so we have evil spirits who are spirits. That’s why they’re called spirits. And they also speak to us in our mind in the spiritual realm. So the issue with trying to hear God is we have three groups of entities speaking us. God and the evil spirits. The question is, how do you discern them? But once we understand that they’re all speaking, then we can start to say, OK, now let me start to pinpoint which one is which. Is this making sense?
Penny: [01:00:04.40] It does, yeah.
Beatty: [01:00:05.90] Ok, so they all speak to us. They all speak to us all the time and different people more than others. OK, if you’re living a life more in the flesh than in the spirit, you’re not really pursuing the Lord, your Christiania. You don’t really go to church because you you don’t like the people at church. You’re not church because everyone kind of a hypocrite. So you you just do your own thing on your, you know, things like that. You’re not really. Generally speaking, you’re not as intentionally engaged with the law.
Penny: [01:00:38.64] You know, I was going to add something to that because I think that’s a really good point. I feel like so much of what you’re saying has to do with what you’re filling your mind with if you’re constantly binge watching Netflix or and there’s nothing wrong with Netflix. Hear me out on that. But if you’re spending more time listening to music that is not uplifting to the Lord and glorifying the Lord, if you’re spending more time filling your eyes, what you’re seeing with things of the world, meaning maybe not not a very appropriate show on Netflix or whatever it may be, if you’re spending more time with that, then you’re not going to be hearing the Lord is clearly it’s kind of the whole concept of whatever you as a personal trainer, I used to tell my my clients this all the time. You are only going to get out of this workout what you decide to put into it. And so it’s kind of the same thing with the Lord. You’re not going to be hearing from the Lord if you’re choosing other things to be filling your time in your mind and your thoughts versus God over God. There’s a scripture in Colossians three, verse two that I love, and it says something like Feast on all the treasures of the heavenly realm and fill your thoughts with heavenly realities, not with the distractions of the natural realm. And I feel like that’s such a key. It goes along with what you’re saying is like, what are you what are you mostly filling your mind with, whether it’s TV or music or reading or whatever it is? Who are you around like your friends? We have to tell our kids that all the time. Like reevaluate your friendships. Who you hang around with is who you’re going to become, you know. Anyway, does that make sense?
Beatty: [01:02:37.36] That makes perfect sense and it goes back to what you were saying earlier, the intentionality of engaging, but I would like to extend a little bit more is the intentionality of constantly engaging with the Lord. Not just you have a difficult situation, a tough question. You need a good answer. And so now you say, OK, Lord, I’m showing up. Yes, yes. That intentionality consistently. And this is kind of what I was talking about earlier. When you make the commitment to really pursue the Lord, these other things that are going on, you know, what you fill your mind with naturally gravitate toward the Lord. That’s the evidence. Yes. Of how committed you really are.
Penny: [01:03:19.00] Yes. But Will and I will say when you do that, when you reach that point Beatty what you just said, when your natural gravitation is to be more with the Lord than you are with things of the world, then you actually can be driving down the road and hear the Lord talking to you. Not in church. I’m not sitting listening to a sermon. I mean, I might have one playing in the car, you know, on a podcast or something, but I’m just doing my thing, running my errands. And all of a sudden I hear the Lord talking to me like that because I spend so much time with him. He has something to say. And I hear it.
Beatty: [01:03:56.50] And and I think the key and this is and we’re going to wrap up, but this is all hitting the same point that I wanted to really hit home for our listeners as you spend that time with the Lord. You discern his voice among all those other voices that are trying to speak to you. Yes, that’s why when you’re riding down the road, you can hear him speak. Even if you had not spent time with them, he would still be speaking. You just can’t hear it. That’s right. It’s just one of those babies in that room of all of those babies. And they all sound alike. But once you understand your baby’s voice. Then as soon as that, they even if it’s a little whimper, you can discern and among all of the cacophony of all the other little babies and you instantly know your baby needs you. That’s right. When we spend that time with the Lord, that’s what we’re going to start to sense. You’re going to start to recognize that voice. I want to share the last couple of things. This is not a technique, OK? But this is something that may help. You can take authority and Christ over all of those other spirit voices that are trying to crowd out the voice of God in your life. Yes. And you can, in the authority of Christ, say basically, you know, I come in every evil spirit voice to go silent. Mm hmm. Be quiet. And and if you’re needing to hear the Lord on something that may be something to engage with, I remember so is we’re talking about so hearing his voice and getting answers, I want to kind of decipher these two things real quickly, hearing his voice. I think we’ve hit it over and over again.
Beatty: [01:05:43.18] It’s spending time in his word with him recognizing his voice. And over time, you’ll start to discern it, asking questions and getting clear answers. There’s one other element. George Mueller shared this. And George Mueller was a man of God in the hundreds, early nineteen hundreds in Bristol, England, and he was known at that time as really mighty in the faith because his prayers would always get answered and he could clearly hear the Lord and what the Lord’s directing. And people would always ask him, How can you hear the Lord? How do you get such clear answers? And he gave a little formula. We’ve been talking about it, you know, having a lifestyle of pursuing the Lord. But he added one more element to get an answer to what you’re asking the Lord about and to be able to clearly hear his answer from everything else. And that is you have to get your mind and your own will to such a two, to such a level of peace that you have no will of your own in the decision that whatever the Lord directs you is perfectly fine with you. So let me give you an example. So at one time, he built up an orphanage. He never asked for money. It was all supported by donations. He built up an orphanage with 20000 children and he wanted to know should he continue the orphanage because the donations started to die off. And so he went before the Lord. Now you can imagine if you if 20 years of your life’s work has been building up an orphanage, having enough buildings and dormitories to house 20 thousand children, would you imagine that your life in your heart would be pretty much tied up into that?
Penny: [01:07:39.25] Yes, for sure.
Beatty: [01:07:41.05] So your heart would be surely we can’t let the orphanage die. Mm hmm. But if you go into asking the Lord with that attitude, you won’t hear the Lord if he tells you something else, because you will look so strong with what you want it to be or what you feel it ought to be. So his first understanding, the most important thing is you have to enter asking that question to the Lord without any predetermined desire on your end that you can keep the orphanage or you can shut it down just as easily, because whatever the Lord wants you to do is OK with you.
Penny: [01:08:21.52] It’s just like it’s just like Jesus taught us. Jesus said when he was teaching the disciples how to pray. I think it was Jesus. He said, ah, he was in the garden. And he said, Lord, is there any way that you can take this from me? He was asking the Lord a question, but then he ended it by saying, But not my will, only yours be done. So I think that’s you’re exactly right. When you’re when you’re approaching God with a question we’re supposed to do as Jesus did in our approach should always be in anything, whether it’s a business finance question, something concerning your children or your marriage. You have to have that mentality of Jesus to say, this is not my situation. I’m handing it to the Lord. Lord, whatever your will is, that’s what I want. And you have to be able to let go prior to going into prayer, prior to going to the Lord and asking the question, you have to be willing to let it go.
Beatty: [01:09:28.92] Let it go, let it go. Let’s wrap up, because I think this is a great spot. So let me just kind of highlight and summarize what we discussed. God does speak. He speaks all the time. He speaks through his word by highlighting it, and he speaks in our spirit by nudging our heart. Once we learn to translate what he speaks into our spirit so that our mind can understand it, then we start to hear those words. We can begin to hear them slightly and yes, no questions. And then as we continue to grow, we can start to hear them so clearly, we can actually take dictation because we hear entire and complete sentences and sometimes entire paragraphs. The way to get there is a lifestyle of commitment in following the Lord to pursue him, to be diligent, to be intentional, to seek him above all. Mm hmm. To fast. We’ll cover that in the next session. And when you come before him and you have difficult questions, you need asked, need answered, you must first come to a place in your own heart. That you have no will in the matter and whatever God’s will is, is all that you care about and therefore you can come and ask him and hear his voice. But it is not an overnight thing. I don’t want anyone on this call to think that, OK, now they got the formula and they’re going to start doing this. And next week they’re going to be hearing the Lord.
Penny: [01:11:06.55] Mm hmm.
Beatty: [01:11:09.16] It’s like raising a baby. And to someone who can clearly communicate with adults, you know, that takes at least three to five years. OK. Yeah, there is a development and then as you continue to grow, it continues to develop. So with that, let’s wrap up this call. I’ll let you close this out.
Penny: [01:11:29.39] Well, Beatty, thank you so much. This was such a great, great call today. As you can tell, I probably got a little bit more excited than normal. I love this topic and it was wonderful. Thank you so much for your time and your expertize today and just really encouraging our listeners with being able to hear the Lord and just really that the encouragement that I hope they all received and knowing that they can and they are equipped to hear from the Lord. And so I just really thank you for that. And everybody, we appreciate you listening. Please make sure you subscribe. If you haven’t done it yet, share this podcast with your friends. And yeah, if there’s not anything else Beatty, then we will wrap up and we’ll be back again soon.
Beatty: [01:12:16.91] I think that’s got you all. By the way, listen to it again. You’ll pick up more the second time around. As with all of these podcasts. So thanks for listening and letting us serve. You have a blessed day.